Comment: I spent a day on the beach in Carlyon Bay last week – at the quiet end, I believe it must have been Polgaver Beach. We walked past the planned development and saw and heard diggers in action and had to walk right to the other end of the bay to enjoy a beautiful day on the beach. Curious about the diggers, I checked out information about Carlyon Bay on my return home and came across your site. I am astounded and dismayed that such a lovely beach should be built on at all! As I am not a resident, I cannot influence decisions, but I hope enough people voice their opinions to convince those responsible that they should leave well alone. It is incomprehensible to me how one can build on there. I wish your campaign well and hope you succeed in preventing the development.

Comment: Our many thanks Gabriele for your e-mail – your support is much appreciated. If you have any like-minded family and friends, their letters will be equally welcome. We are doing all that we can to achieve another public inquiry – for that is what this Application deserves. There is far too much key information (which is absolutely essential to the decision-making process) for it to be debated within Cornwall Council’s usual processes and, in any event, we believe that Cornwall Council is compromised by the inclusion of an ‘inducement’ (a so-called ‘planning gain’) of £5.7 millions within the Application proposals. As said, we strive. Kind regards, and many thanks again. Peter, for Carlyonbaywatch

Comment: Fantastic News!

Comment: Great news that this development has been given the go ahead by Cornwall Council. Hopefully, the secretary of state will rubber stamp it. The injection of £250 million in to the local economy will be a boost to everyone in the area bring jobs and prosperity.

Comment: Yes it needs improving but not in the way of making money at the expense of wildlife both plant and animal. This coast is not meant to have concrete buildings. It will totally spoil the whole place. My childhood and my childrens were spent here every summer and lovely walks in winter. How dare they desocrate a beautiful potential. It will all come to a bad end and waste sooooo much money. Keep money hungry developers off it and use it more sensibly. The Cornish people deserve a better deal with this. I am not just talking about the people who choose to live in the crinnis area it also belongs to the people of St Austell. The petition should go door to door all over St Austell and Par. It will be inundated with signatures but we need to see it.Not keep it the residents of Carlyon Bay.The roads are also an issue here.

Comment: Hi Robert, it is indeed great news for those who seek to destroy the nature of this part of Cornwall by transforming it into “Costa Del Carlyon”, and, if they' succeed, great news also for those hordes of developers waiting in the wings for the precedent to be set. Those who seek temporary, seasonal and part-time employment during anti-social hours for National minimum wage will also warmly welcome the news but, for the rest of us, the reasonable compromise that we have long and ardently sought, a development restricted to the brownfield site of Crinnis Beach, would have been even greater news. Regards, Peter.

Comment: Ive just heard the news of this planning monstrosity. I have used Polgavor for over thirty years and it has been a naturist beach for generations.Can you tell me what next cbw will do. I am keen to support you. Lets hope these plans will come to nothing. All that is required is a beach shop , cafe, bar with function room picnic areas decent car parks. Couple this with Polgavor as an OFFICIAL NATURIST BEACH the perfect ingredients for a great day out in a NATURAL setting. Dave, Bodmin

Comment: Thanks Dave. There is not much that CBW can now do, the horse has bolted. We are frustrated after thousands of hours of voluntary work given to the campaign. "Localism" laws being introduced in Parliament proved to be a mirage. We got three public inquiries, lost one, won one, and the developer quit the third. We pushed for Enforcement, to remove the steel wall, but the developer's got the last laugh, the new Permission allows him to rebuild it. Thanks again, if anything changes, we'll be in touch. Regards, Peter,CBW.

Comment: I was looking on Google Earth, planning nice trips/routes for this year's visit to Cornwall & wondered what that helluva mess was on such a lovely beach. Found the details & I was gobsmacked to say the least. I think the previous eyesore needed to be removed but why not reinstate it to a natural beach with maybe some small & appropriate visitor facilities? That would encourage visitors & also generate income for the area, wouldn't it? And would still leave the natural beauty intact for locals & visitors to enjoy. Mr Pickles needs his head examined. But then I think a lot of us knew that already...

Comment: Thankyou, Eileen, for your note. Regrettably, the horse has now left the stable, so that we can now only monitor its progress over the next months and years. Perhaps many would share your view of Pickles Esq., but we see so much awful weakness in high places these days that it’s hard to know where to put your vote. Kind regards, Peter for Carlyonbaywatch.

Comment: 'Trees and Shrubs for Cornwall' by J.Hunkin,starts: Cornwall is a county made beautiful by Nature, uglified by man. The chief asset is a magnificent coastline disfigured by inferior, untidy building. Thanks CBW for your battle to protect the beaches for future generations to enjoy its benefits. So many non Cornishmen on the Council stacked the odds against you. Only financial gain matters. Hall Sands disappeared, as will this, a disaster waiting to happen. Thanks for the pressure to retain rights of access.Best wishes Nigel and Charlie

Comment: Thankyou Nigel and Charlie, there has been so much that is wrong, not only with the proposal but also the process, that it’s hard to believe we in Cornwall are not living in a banana republic, but that’s probably being unfair to bananas. CBW will doubtless seek to do what it still can to make the best of a very bad job. Thanks again, Peter at CBW.

Comment: Just visited Carlyon Bay. Not been before but my wife had. She was stunned to see it in the current state. Just googled to see what's been going on. Can't believe what they want to do. Such a shame to lose what looks to have been an idyllic area. Simon & Tracy Abbotson Essex

Comment: For me growing up and attending Penrice school, Carlyon bay became 'The place' to be. Bentlies,Gossips,functions at the Ocean sweet, the swimming pool, riding on the train.Pop stars to see,the Radio One road show, the rolar disco, eating at the Wimpey and I learnt to drive in the car park.Carlyon bay was an exciting place,I loved Carlyon bay. They have ruined it!!!Why!!!? Look at Fistral beach, surf shacks, trendy restaurants, that's what we need back.Par docks also needs to be a Marina

Comment: Sadly, Nina, memories are about all we've got left from the old days, our lords and masters in Truro continue to run rough-shod over the people of Cornwall and those most impacted by huge developments like the beach and, of course, the incinerator at St.Dennis. It's too late to look back, so I feel that what you must now do is to be vigilant, and work for that future Cornwall that you wish to see. Regards, Peter.

Comment: Very worried that this is the thin end of a wedge that will allow developers to despoil private beaches more-or-less at will. Our seashore should no longer be held to ransom & sold off to property speculators...........

Comment: It is about time something was done with Carlyon Bay. This looks like a great idea that will energise the area.

Comment: Well, James, we can agree that it is about time something was done but, far from 'energising' the area, the likely outcome of this plan will be strangulation. A whole new seaside town served by a single narrow road... it won't only be the cream that's clotted. Regards, Peter

Comment: The Coleseum has become an eyesore due to neglect, and certainly that immediate area needs to be improved. However, why does Shorthorn and Polgaver need to be 'developed'? I cannot understand why it seems to be an 'all or nothing' development. Could it be that there are finacial incentives involved? 511 dwellings is an obscene number. A new beach/visitor facility was all that was needed to give the Bay a new lease of life. This grossly overdevelopment will sign its death warrant.

Comment: Thank you Rosemary, I am certain that you reflect the views of the majority of people locally - this whole thing is just too big, but sadly, it's now too late for protestations. More worrying, the new Localism Bill suggests that we have even bigger problems ahead of us, with the developer already now holding a blank cheque called an "Outline Consent". We shall continue to watch and wait... Thanks and regards, Peter.

Comment: Visited this once beautiful bay to enjoy late Summer sunshine. Devastated by the destruction caused by "developers" - by oppressive security guards and by Cornwall's decision to build on this special place. Shame on all of them that so much is lost for so many good and decent people for the financial gain of so few. During my walk on what should have been a magical day of Indian Summer, the fencing, notices and worst of all the patrolling security guards summed up what this place has become

Comment: Hullo Graham, Thankyou for your message. As you’ll have seen from recent correspondence, we are as sorry as you about the state of the place.We understand that constructing the revised Sea Wall, the design for which detailed consent has been granted, will commence early next year. We are apprehensive as to what's next, because outline approval has also been given for 511 apartments plus shops and offices etc. With the new planning laws, we could see some unexpected changes.Meanwhile, we do our best to keep a public awareness alive, and to ensure access is improved. Regards, Peter, CBW.

Comment: History shows us that politely asking large corporations - who are motivated only by profits - to do the right thing is often fruitless. I believe that we need to engage in a campaign of Direct Action to halt the plans of these corporate developers. Our childrens children won't be asking us in future, how many letters we wrote asking the council to stop Ampersands... they'll be asking us, what did you DO to stop them!?

Comment: Thankyou Terence, you are correct in calling for positive action – anyone who knows anything about Carlyonbaywatch cannot fail to be aware that it has for nine years taken direct action with three public enquiries and still continues to challenge the authorities, local and national. We have succeeded in some of the battles, but not the war. What we need is some of the younger generation to support us elderly people in this work which requires dedication and, if you know anyone in Cornwall who is ready to put their shoulder to our wheel, please let us know. Regards, Peter.

Comment: we really need to get this eyesore resolved very quickly we have a company willing to invest in our area which is much needed, we have an eyesore which just brings the whole area down, it is time for the development to go ahead as planned it will bring much needed employment into the area and of course everything else that comes with that there were very little objections to the horrible mess that is falling down before our eyes i just feel it has become more than politcal this development will only enhance the area and bring much needed growth to our area

Comment: Right-oh, Stephen, let’s get the eyesore resolved, but not at ‘any price’. At this moment, there are planning, infrastructural and legal issues presently unresolved, which must take more time. It is fair to state that had this developer listened to reason way back in 2004, the job could have been completed and operational by now. However, their quest for 511 Apartments and 30,000 square feet of commercial space has now been achieved but, as of 2 February 2012 we still don’t know anything about the final design or “enhancement of the area” about which you write. Regards, Peter

Comment: I came across your website whilst reminiscing my youth. I came from the depressed north around 1972 and worked for the Lovett family for 6 months at Carlyon Lido. It had it's rough edges but the atmosphere, the local people, and the unspoilt beauty of the place remain memory of a happy time. Mr Lovett was a hard taskmaster, who lived in a caravan, complete with Hammond organ on which he excelled. My respect for him made the work an experience I'll treasure. The photos of it's present state,(I now live in Cumbria), appal me and I urge you to keep campaigning to protect this jewel. To see a concrete "development", funded by non local investors would be a tragedy and deny my kids from it's attraction. I'm 60 now, but I'm determined to make the journey back and if I can lend any support at all, please let me know. Regards Geoff

Comment: Thankyou for your support Geoff but, sadly, the Genie is now out of the bottle despite our 8 long years of struggle to contain it. As stated above, we are presently in a sort of limbo, awaiting news of the developer's proposals regarding the Outline Consent which they were granted. That's likely to take several months but may I suggest you keep in touch with our site ? We shall try to post the information here as soon as it is published. Thanks again and kind regards, Peter, for CBW.