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Carlyon Bay Watch is keen to hear your views on any topic concerning the area.  

Two people have emailed us with their thoughts on the long planning battle over the Carlyon Bay beaches.

In March 2010, we had this from DH of North Yorkshire.

"I have been keeping an eye on developments on and off since I first heard about the problems caused by Ampersand some years ago.  I find the new plan issue worrying.  Having experienced how the planners operate (in North Yorkshire anyway) I am rather cynical about the whole process which clearly seems to be weighted in favour of developers.  On the plans themselves I have a few observations:

  • ‘Social housing’ and ‘off site’ leapt out at me.  This looks like a deal is being struck for Ampersand to get what it wants in return for providing low cost housing stock perhaps on another, possibly brownfield, site provided by the council, hence off site.  The ‘social housing’ will probably be priced out of the financial reach of ordinary Cornish people anyway.
  • The ‘current brownfield site’ will almost certainly turn out to be the site up to the ugly metal piles driven into the beach which form the boundary of the old development site that ampersand created.  They will probably argue it is brownfield because it has been developed.
  • Sadly I think you will probably turn out to be right about the change from Holiday use to permanent because of the economic downturn.  Ampersand will probably want some profit and to keep its capital so selling units will be very attractive to them.  So the rich folks get their waterfront apartments and the less well off Cornish get tiny overpriced cottages on a former industrial estate is my guess.  In the process the soul gets ripped out of a historical piece of Cornwall.

Cornwall doesn’t need developments that attack communities like this it needs small businesses to create long term employment for the Cornish people and you don’t put them on beaches!

I do hope you win this.

Best Wishes

DH, North Yorkshire"




In January 2010, a visitor from the London area contacted us.  With his permission, this is his email together with a reply by CBW member Peter Browning.

"Hello - I dropped in on Carlyon Bay purely by chance on New Year's Eve,
during a three-day trip to Cornwall. I had never been there before nor
heard about it.

I was immediately struck by the rugged beauty and simplicity of a
relatively unadorned beached, similar to some of the large, classic Greek
beaches I am used to on my trips there, such as Ayia Ana (Naxos): more than 1.5km of pretty much undeveloped sand, and Megalo Seitani (Samos);
accessible only by boat or a one-hour scramble through the olive groves..

I was also fascinated by the large, blue 'visitor centre', the fencing, the
piling and the fascinating 80s era wreck of a building. Uninformed as to
the development history, I thought the buildings' roofs had been torn off
by the elements, and the windows punched out by high seas. I hoped this was an example of wild nature taking back the land, and that, eventually, some local authority would eventually accept defeat and quietly bulldoze and cart away the rubble and let the beach slowly revert to its natural state.

However, on getting back to my B&B, I fired up the laptop and visited the
developer's website, determined to learn a bit more about what was going
on.

I was amazed to see the plans Ampersand/CEG have for the beach, and I
questioned the viability, both from a commercial and an environmental point
of view.

Today I have visited your superb website, and updated myself on the history of the area and the planning battle.

As a local newspaper journalist I'm well used to these sorts of wrangles
and this one, although highly drawn out, seems to be following a pretty
familiar pattern.

But I would be interested to know if CBW objects purely on the grounds of
inappropriacy, environmental damage and so on, or, if you are really
honest, because the development is something that will upset the status
quo? It seemed to me that there was a fair amount of development up the
cliff, with the hotel, the side roads and very desireable homes punched
into what would have once been virgin scrub and woodland, and the other
bits and pieces on the backside of the bay (kart track?).

I imagine those were anathema to someone once. Maybe there was even a
forerunner to CBW saying: 'No homes!' or 'No expansion to the hotel!' or
'Save our headland!'

Graham Norwood's Observer piece of November 8 cited one of CBW's objections as the effect the development would have on property prices. In other words, in his view, those already sitting pretty might lose out to someone else's desire to also sit pretty. Would there also be less of a problem if the developer was a local business person or consortium rather than outsiders?

It's a tricky argument: I understand you are not opposed to limited,
sustainable development, and accept it will happen eventually. But one
person's despoilation is another's progress, and, in common with other
places I have seen - such as Jandia Bay in Fuerteventura with its
hotel-only economy - I'm sure there will be many hundreds of local
potential chambermaids, handymen, gardeners, caterers, groundskeepers etc. hoping this development might be their salvation from low paid or
merely seasonal employment.

As an outsider I would love to arrive at a Carlyon Bay TOTALLY devoid of
any development save perhaps a car park and a couple of HIGHLY CONTROLLED cafés, perhaps one at each end. No huts, no hotels, no pedalos or jet skis. Laissez faire management and minimum intervention. You come, you sit, you swim, you leave - but that would hardly bring in the crowds or the cash, would it?

It seems to me, striking a happy medium is the hardest of all tasks. In
keeping with the rest of Cornwall, playing to the area's strengths of
natural beauty and relatively good climate provides work and income, but to
provide that work and income in adequate amounts sometimes demands a
fundamental re-shaping of the landscape. The Eden Project is a brilliant
reclamation of a former quarry, a source of employment and a market for
local traders. It's also a traffic nuisance to those who must watch
thousands of cars per day roll past their home in the summertime. No doubt
there are others in similar vein.

I will follow the developments (or otherwise!) at Carlyon Bay with interest
on your website.

AH, London"

Reply from Peter Browning. 

"Very many thanks for your letter.
 
The branding as "Nimbys" of any group of protesters, be it wind farms, nuclear power plants or whatever, is these days de riguer, whether or not they have any right to be heard. However, you are absolutely correct, Carlyonbaywatch has never been against development on this beach, but only against the sheer scale of the developer's proposals to date. We have faced four public inquiries, two of which were side-stepped by the developer, one of which they "won" ( a 'Village Green' ) and the key one that they "lost", which was about the totally unauthorised shuttering construction that has blighted the beach since 2004. The enforcement notice, which we had to campaign for, requiring removal of that shuttering expires in December 2010 so, hopefully, this year will see some clearance, but we're not holding our breath. Recently, one of our members also established official recognition of the public footpath running all the way down the hill to the beach level, and then across to almost the high water mark. The developer first intended to appeal that, but again side-stepped another inquiry, and the Inspector ruled in favour of the Applicant, but the path has yet to be cleared. 
 
Carlyon Bay beach, as you may have gathered, in fact consists of three beaches, Crinnis, Shorthorn and Polgaver, all of which have been freely used since time immemorial by locals and visitors alike. The original mission of Carlyonbaywatch continues to be that of seeking an environmentally sensitive, proportional development, restricted to the existing "brownfield" site, which means, in effect, the lion's share of Crinnis beach.  We have consistently stated that we would support a proposal that was based on these criteria, even though we have reservations about the consequences of any development of this nature. Our concerns extend well beyond the actual construction phase, because of the seriously weak local infrastructure. Taking traffic as an example, it was established at the main public inquiry that a completed development would generate 1.2 million incremental vehicle movements annually. You only need glance at the local road-map to see the horrendous impact that this level of traffic would have, bearing in mind that all parties have already acknowledged that the A390 Holbush Corridor (9.0m per annum) is already "saturated".  We have similar concerns about hospital facilities and GP support, for again we have established "saturation".  The environmental damage has already been very severe with acres of extremely rare coastal habitat wantonly destroyed.
 
You are again correct with regard to the creation of jobs but, if I may express a personal view, the proposed jobs are exactly the wrong type of jobs, offering mainly part-time, seasonal, national minimum wages for anti-social hours, those very same job-types that have kept Cornwall at the bottom of the economic league in the UK for generations. Our young people deserve the same career-type jobs that any responsible parent would wish for their children, long term prospects and professional skills to match. Again a personal view, my belief is that "Tourism" in Cornwall has held too much influence for far too long, and a wider vision is long overdue. With every due respect to some very delightful chambermaids I have known, I am sure many of them would have welcomed a more fulfilling career, with salary to match. 
 
You mention another journalist's piece which referred to property prices, and I can state with absolute accuracy that no member of Carlyonbaywatch has ever raised the issue of property prices and I can only surmise that his reference arose from other sources when the article was being written. In any event, the argument is tenuous at least, since it could very well be argued that people who could afford coastal second homes starting from £250k upto over £1m each could easily push up prices of established local properties. No sir, that was certainly not us !   
 
Carlyonbaywatch have been consistent, and we have tried always to be absolutely honest, but we cannot say that this manner of approach to such a key issue has been reciprocated. Our major concern is that during the inter-regnum between the demise of the six local Borough Councils and the formation of the unitary Cornwall authority, an unprecedented "planning agreement" was struck in June last by the developer with the Planning Officers behind what were effectively closed doors, and we were only imparted with the knowledge of this agreement very recently. It does not augur well, and serves only to spur us toward greater vigilance.
 
Thank you for your interest, I hope you will find much to be of interest here over the coming weeks and months." 


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